Putting Race Back on the Table in the Presidential Campaign
Putting race back on the table has been a primary goal of the Equal Justice Society since our founding in the summer of 2000. We felt and still feel that race is a topic that makes many people uncomfortable or angry and is therefore avoided. We also have seen the devastating impact of this avoidance.
Over the past eight years, EJS has addressed race in a variety of arenas-law, art, public education, the federal judiciary, and the delivery of health care, to name a few. When the race for the presidency began (it seems it began two decades ago), we heard many people saying that race will no longer be an issue. That America has finally transcended race. We laughed.
As a tax-exempt organization, EJS is prohibited from taking positions on individuals running for office. As individuals, many of us on the staff have endorsed candidates. That is our right. We have also been mesmerized by how race been handled, mishandled, and mangled during the campaign.
Earlier this month, we decided to issue a special online newsletter focusing on race and the presidential campaigns. We're still working on the issue and will release it in the next week.
But then yesterday, Senator Obama gave an amazing speech on race. Our friends Michelle Alexander and Alvin Starks remarked on the fact that the speech went well beyond the parameters of a political campaign. We at EJS agree. Many of the themes sounded by the Senator are ones EJS has addressed since before the time anyone had ever heard of Barack Obama.
For example, we are currently struggling with how to talk about affirmative action in a way that resonates with white Americans. Obama's candid acknowledgement of the resentment many whites have for affirmative action resonated with our experience over the 12 years since the passage of Proposition 209 in California. His statement that we need to heal racial wounds was reflected in the transformative talk given by Dr. Shakti Butler at last year's Judge Constance Baker Motley luncheon.
When we heard and read the speech, we wanted to tie it to our work. This morning, we received an amazing article written by Tim Wise, someone I have admired for years. We met at a Radical Lawyering Conference at Yale Law School in 1998. He was the keynote speaker at the Lawyers' Committee's Dr. Martin Luther King luncheon in 2003. Tim is a leader in the anti-racism movement.
Some of you have already received this article. My friends john powell and Sonia Greer forwarded it to me. Some of Tim's statements will be controversial to some of you but his central thesis is right on point. We are delighted that race is back on the table.
Of National Lies and Racial Amnesia:
Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama, and the Audacity of Truth
By Tim Wise
Published March 18, 2008, on lipmagazine.com
For most white folks, indignation just doesn't wear well. Once affected or conjured up, it reminds one of a pudgy man, wearing a tie that may well have fit him when he was fifty pounds lighter, but which now cuts off somewhere above his navel and makes him look like an idiot.
Indignation doesn't work for most whites, because having remained sanguine about, silent during, indeed often supportive of so much injustice over the years in this country--the theft of native land and genocide of indigenous persons, and the enslavement of Africans being only two of the best examples--we are just a bit late to get into the game of moral rectitude. And once we enter it, our efforts at righteousness tend to fail the test of sincerity.
But here we are, in 2008, fuming at the words of Pastor Jeremiah Wright, of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago--occasionally Barack Obama's pastor, and the man whom Obama credits with having brought him to Christianity--for merely reminding us of those evils about which we have remained so quiet, so dismissive, so unconcerned. It is not the crime that bothers us, but the remembrance of it, the unwillingness to let it go--these last words being the first ones uttered by most whites it seems whenever anyone, least of all an "angry black man" like Jeremiah Wright, foists upon us the bill of particulars for several centuries of white supremacy.
But our collective indignation, no matter how loudly we announce it, cannot drown out the truth. And as much as white America may not be able to hear it (and as much as politics may require Obama to condemn it) let us be clear, Jeremiah Wright fundamentally told the truth.
Oh I know that for some such a comment will seem shocking. After all, didn't he say that America "got what it deserved" on 9/11? And didn't he say that black people should be singing "God Damn America" because of its treatment of the African American community throughout the years?
Well actually, no he didn't.
Wright said not that the attacks of September 11th were justified, but that they were, in effect, predictable. Deploying the imagery of chickens coming home to roost is not to give thanks for the return of the poultry or to endorse such feathered homecoming as a positive good; rather, it is merely to note two things: first, that what goes around, indeed, comes around--a notion with longstanding theological grounding--and secondly, that the U.S. has indeed engaged in more than enough violence against innocent people to make it just a tad bit hypocritical for us to then evince shock and outrage about an attack on ourselves, as if the latter were unprecedented.
He noted that we killed far more people, far more innocent civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki than were killed on 9/11 and "never batted an eye." That this statement is true is inarguable, at least amongst sane people. He is correct on the math, he is correct on the innocence of the dead (neither city was a military target), and he is most definitely correct on the lack of remorse or even self-doubt about the act: sixty-plus years later most Americans still believe those attacks were justified, that they were needed to end the war and "save American lives."
But not only does such a calculus suggest that American lives are inherently worth more than the lives of Japanese civilians (or, one supposes, Vietnamese, Iraqi or Afghan civilians too), but it also ignores the long-declassified documents, and President Truman's own war diaries, all of which indicate clearly that Japan had already signaled its desire to end the war, and that we knew they were going to surrender, even without the dropping of atomic weapons. The conclusion to which these truths then attest is simple, both in its basic veracity and it monstrousness: namely, that in those places we committed premeditated and deliberate mass murder, with no justification whatsoever; and yet for saying that I will receive more hate mail, more hostility, more dismissive and contemptuous responses than will those who suggest that no body count is too high when we're the ones doing the killing. Jeremiah Wright becomes a pariah, because, you see, we much prefer the logic of George Bush the First, who once said that as President he would "never apologize for the United States of America. I don't care what the facts are."
And Wright didn't say blacks should be singing "God Damn America." He was suggesting that blacks owe little moral allegiance to a nation that has treated so many of them for so long as animals, as persons undeserving of dignity and respect, and which even now locks up hundreds of thousands of non-violent offenders (especially for drug possession), even while whites who do the same crimes (and according to the data, when it comes to drugs, more often in fact), are walking around free. His reference to God in that sermon was more about what God will do to such a nation, than it was about what should or shouldn't happen. It was a comment derived from, and fully in keeping with, the black prophetic tradition, and although one can surely disagree with the theology (I do, actually, and don't believe that any God either blesses or condemns nation states for their actions), the statement itself was no call for blacks to turn on America. If anything, it was a demand that America earn the respect of black people, something the evidence and history suggests it has yet to do.
Finally, although one can certainly disagree with Wright about his suggestion that the government created AIDS to get rid of black folks--and I do, for instance--it is worth pointing out that Wright isn't the only one who has said this. In fact, none other than Bill Cosby (oh yes, that Bill Cosby, the one white folks love because of his recent moral crusade against the black poor) proffered his belief in the very same thing back in the early '90s in an interview on CNN, when he said that AIDS may well have been created to get rid of people whom the government deemed "undesirable" including gays and racial minorities.
So that's the truth of the matter: Wright made one comment that is highly arguable, but which has also been voiced by white America's favorite black man, another that was horribly misinterpreted and stripped of all context, and then another that was demonstrably accurate. And for this, he is pilloried and made into a virtual enemy of the state; for this, Barack Obama may lose the support of just enough white folks to cost him the Democratic nomination, and/or the Presidency; all of it, because Jeremiah Wright, unlike most preachers opted for truth. If he had been one of those "prosperity ministers" who says Jesus wants nothing so much as for you to be rich, like Joel Osteen, that would have been fine. Had he been a retread bigot like Falwell was, or Pat Robertson is, he might have been criticized, but he would have remained in good standing and surely not have damaged a Presidential candidate in this way. But unlike Osteen, and Falwell, and Robertson, Jeremiah Wright refused to feed his parishioners lies.
What Jeremiah Wright knows, and told his flock--though make no mistake, they already knew it--is that 9/11 was neither the first, nor worst act of terrorism on American soil. The history of this nation for folks of color, was for generations, nothing less than an intergenerational hate crime, one in which 9/11s were woven into the fabric of everyday life: hundreds of thousands of the enslaved who died from the conditions of their bondage; thousands more who were lynched (as many as 10,000 in the first few years after the Civil War, according to testimony in the Congressional Record at the time); millions of indigenous persons wiped off the face of the Earth. No, to some, the horror of 9/11 was not new. To some it was not on that day that "everything changed." To some, everything changed four hundred years ago, when that first ship landed at what would become Jamestown. To some, everything changed when their ancestors were forced into the hulls of slave ships at Goree Island and brought to a strange land as chattel. To some, everything changed when they were run out of Northern Mexico, only to watch it become the Southwest United States, thanks to a war of annihilation initiated by the U.S. government. To some, being on the receiving end of terrorism has been a way of life. Until recently it was absolutely normal in fact.
But white folks have a hard time hearing these simple truths. We find it almost impossible to listen to an alternative version of reality. Indeed, what seems to bother white people more than anything, whether in the recent episode, or at any other time, is being confronted with the recognition that black people do not, by and large, see the world like we do; that black people, by and large, do not view America as white people view it. We are, in fact, shocked that this should be so, having come to believe, apparently, that the falsehoods to which we cling like a kidney patient clings to a dialysis machine, are equally shared by our darker-skinned compatriots.
This is what James Baldwin was talking about in his classic 1972 work, No Name in the Street, wherein he noted:White children, in the main, and whether they are rich or poor, grow up with a grasp of reality so feeble that they can very accurately be described as deluded--about themselves and the world they live in. White people have managed to get through their entire lifetimes in this euphoric state, but black people have not been so lucky: a black man who sees the world the way John Wayne, for example, sees it would not be an eccentric patriot, but a raving maniac.And so we were shocked in 1987, when Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall declined to celebrate the bicentennial of the Constitution, because, as he noted, most of that history had been one of overt racism and injustice, and to his way of thinking, the only history worth celebrating had been that of the past three or four decades.
We were shocked to learn that black people actually believed that a white cop who was a documented racist might frame a black man; and we're shocked to learn that lots of black folks still perceive the U.S. as a racist nation--we're literally stunned that people who say they experience discrimination regularly (and who have the social science research to back them up) actually think that those experiences and that data might actually say something about the nation in which they reside. Imagine.
Whites are easily shocked by what we see and hear from Pastor Wright and Trinity Church, because what we see and hear so thoroughly challenges our understanding of who we are as a nation. But black people have never, for the most part, believed in the imagery of the "shining city on a hill," for they have never had the option of looking at their nation and ignoring the mountain-sized warts still dotting its face when it comes to race. Black people do not, in the main, get misty eyed at the sight of the flag the way white people do--and this is true even for millions of black veterans--for they understand that the nation for whom that flag waves is still not fully committed to their own equality. They have a harder time singing those tunes that white people seem so eager to belt out, like "God Bless America," for they know that whites sang those words loudly and proudly even as they were enforcing Jim Crow segregation, rioting against blacks who dared move into previously white neighborhoods, throwing rocks at Dr. King and then cheering, as so many did, when they heard the news that he had been assassinated.
Whites refuse to remember (or perhaps have never learned) that which black folks cannot afford to forget. I've seen white people stunned to the point of paralysis when they learn the truth about lynchings in this country--when they discover that such events were not just a couple of good old boys with a truck and a rope hauling some black guy out to the tree, hanging him, and letting him swing there. They were never told the truth: that lynchings were often community events, advertised in papers as "Negro Barbecues," involving hundreds or even thousands of whites, who would join in the fun, eat chicken salad and drink sweet tea, all while the black victims of their depravity were being hung, then shot, then burned, and then having their body parts cut off, to be handed out to onlookers. They are stunned to learn that postcards of the events were traded as souvenirs, and that very few whites, including members of their own families did or said anything to stop it.
Rather than knowing about and confronting the ugliness of our past, whites take steps to excise the less flattering aspects of our history so that we need not be bothered with them. So, in Tulsa, Oklahoma, for example, site of an orgy of violence against the black community in 1921, city officials literally went into the town library and removed all reference to the mass killings in the Greenwood district from the papers with a razor blade--an excising of truth and an assault on memory that would remain unchanged for over seventy years.
Most white people desire, or perhaps even require the propagation of lies when it comes to our history. Surely we prefer the lies to anything resembling, even remotely, the truth. Our version of history, of our national past, simply cannot allow for the intrusion of fact into a worldview so thoroughly identified with fiction. But that white version of America is not only extraordinarily incomplete, in that it so favors the white experience to the exclusion of others; it is more than that; it is actually a slap in the face to people of color, a re-injury, a reminder that they are essentially irrelevant, their concerns trivial, their lives unworthy of being taken seriously. In that sense, and what few if any white Americans appear capable of grasping at present, is that "Leave it to Beaver" and "Father Knows Best," portray an America so divorced from the reality of the times in which they were produced, as to raise serious questions about the sanity of those who found them so moving, so accurate, so real. These iconographic representations of life in the U.S. are worse than selective, worse than false, they are assaults to the humanity and memory of black people, who were being savagely oppressed even as June Cleaver did housework in heels and laughed about the hilarious hijinks of Beaver and Larry Mondello.
These portraits of America are certifiable evidence of how disconnected white folks were--and to the extent we still love them and view them as representations of the "good old days" to which we wish we could return, still are--from those men and women of color with whom we have long shared a nation. Just two months before "Leave it to Beaver" debuted, proposed civil rights legislation was killed thanks to Strom Thurmond's 24-hour filibuster speech on the floor of the U.S. Senate. One month prior, Arkansas Governor Orville Faubus called out the National Guard to block black students from entering Little Rock Central High; and nine days before America was introduced to the Cleavers, and the comforting image of national life they represented, those black students were finally allowed to enter, amid the screams of enraged, unhinged, viciously bigoted white people, who saw nothing wrong with calling children niggers in front of cameras. That was America of the 1950s: not the sanitized version into which so many escape thanks to the miracle of syndication, which merely allows white people to relive a lie, year after year after year.
No, it is not the pastor who distorts history; Nick at Nite and your teenager's textbooks do that. It is not he who casts aspersions upon "this great country" as Barack Obama put it in his public denunciations of him; it is the historic leadership of the nation that has cast aspersions upon it; it is they who have cheapened it, who have made gaudy and vile the promise of American democracy by defiling it with lies. They engage in a patriotism that is pathological in its implications, that asks of those who adhere to it not merely a love of country but the turning of one's nation into an idol to be worshipped, if not literally, then at least in terms of consequence.
It is they--the flag-lapel-pin wearing leaders of this land--who bring shame to the country with their nonsensical suggestions that we are always noble in warfare, always well-intended, and although we occasionally make mistakes, we are never the ones to blame for anything. Nothing that happens to us has anything to do with us at all. It is always about them. They are evil, crazy, fanatical, hate our freedoms, and are jealous of our prosperity. When individuals prattle on in this manner we diagnose them as narcissistic, as deluded. When nations do it--when our nation does--we celebrate it as though it were the very model of rational and informed citizenship.
So what can we say about a nation that values lies more than it loves truth? A place where adherence to sincerely believed and internalized fictions allows one to rise to the highest offices in the land, and to earn the respect of millions, while a willingness to challenge those fictions and offer a more accurate counter-narrative earns one nothing but contempt, derision, indeed outright hatred? What we can say is that such a place is signing its own death warrant. What we can say is that such a place is missing the only and last opportunity it may ever have to make things right, to live up to its professed ideals. What we can say is that such a place can never move forward, because we have yet to fully address and come to terms with that which lay behind.
What can we say about a nation where white preachers can lie every week from their pulpits without so much as having to worry that their lies might be noticed by the shiny white faces in their pews, while black preachers who tell one after another essential truth are demonized, not only for the stridency of their tone--which needless to say scares white folks, who have long preferred a style of praise and worship resembling nothing so much as a coma--but for merely calling bullshit on those whose lies are swallowed whole?
And oh yes, I said it: white preachers lie. In fact, they lie with a skill, fluidity, and precision unparalleled in the history of either preaching or lying, both of which histories stretch back a ways and have often overlapped. They lie every Sunday, as they talk about a Savior they have chosen to represent dishonestly as a white man, in every picture to be found of him in their tabernacles, every children's story book in their Sunday Schools, every Christmas card they'll send to relatives and friends this December. But to lie about Jesus, about the one they consider God--to bear false witness as to who this man was and what he looked like--is no cause for concern.
Nor is it a problem for these preachers to teach and preach that those who don't believe as they believe are going to hell. Despite the fact that such a belief casts aspersions upon God that are so profound as to defy belief--after all, they imply that God is so fundamentally evil that he would burn non-believers in a lake of eternal fire--many of the white folks who now condemn Jeremiah Wright welcome that theology of hate. Indeed, back when President Bush was the Governor of Texas, he endorsed this kind of thinking, responding to a question about whether Jews were going to go to hell, by saying that unless one accepted Jesus as one's personal savior, the Bible made it pretty clear that indeed, hell was where you'd be heading.
So you can curse God in this way--and to imply such hate on God's part is surely to curse him--and in effect, curse those who aren't Christians, and no one says anything. That isn't considered bigoted. That isn't considered beyond the pale of polite society. One is not disqualified from becoming President in the minds of millions because they go to a church that says that shit every single week, or because they believe it themselves. And millions do believe it, and see nothing wrong with it whatsoever.
So white folks are mad at Jeremiah Wright because he challenges their views about their country. Meanwhile, those same white folks, and their ministers and priests, every week put forth a false image of the God Jeremiah Wright serves, and yet it is whites who feel we have the right to be offended.
Pardon me, but something is wrong here, and whatever it is, is not to be found at Trinity United Church of Christ.
Reader Comments (23)
I fear the situation will worsen because it has become more obvious to me with each passing day, that the media is now attacking the Black Church. They have charged head-first into our most sacred place of hope and inspiration and are now showing their fanatical bent to breaking the will of the American people.
Senator Obama has done what few others have ever done, and he has done so despite the machinations and manueverings of those who wish to defeat him.
It becomes clearer to me that those in power are now showing their true color, and their true allegiance. It is not to America... it is to a elite group in White Amerca. This same group that has perpetrated every imaginable crime against our society. Look at the housing shamble... I don't think poor people were behind setting up the schemes that brought this tragedy to life. Look at the Economy... I don't think there was a group of middle class people who sat upon their "mountain tops" and decided to find ways to institutionalize processes and strategies to exploit every dollar one might earn.
Don't get me wrong, I love this country... I love the people who live here. But it seems to me God (whether one is Muslim, Catholic, Jewish, etc.) has finally had enough of the defeatist approaches to engaging in life that have become the trademark for those in power.
Across the World peoples are tired of subjugation and politic rhetoric. They are tired of being hungry and not having enough to live even a modest life. The gaps between the haves and the have nots continue to grow... the middle class is going the way of the dinosaur - all this yet we have benefited greatly during this information age.
Our capacity to share our reality with others has opened a door that had been historically shut. The Sunlight is now beaming in and we are forced to look in the mirror that has been deliberately placed before us.
We are forced to see our own prejudices and biases... or we are forced to see how deeply rooted others are to theirs. Either way the bell has been rung... the real race has started... the contest to harness the minds of the masses regarding ethnic inequality is in motion on a level heretofore unheard of. One runner wants you to believe there is only one reality in America -- that of the Rich & Powerful, another runner wants you to believe there's another reality in America -- that of a balance between the Rich & Powerful and most other folk, still the third runner is offering one other reality -- that ALL realities are valid and the only way to become a better people and save us from the defeatist ways of our past is for us to come together in acknowledgment and respect, and use the lessons of our collective past to develop a better future.
THANK YOU!!! from deep in my heart THANK YOU!!!!
D. Ginsberg
You certainly made me think of how I felt when Bush said about 9/11,that those people who did that are jealous of Americans and they are cowards. I thought, he just doesn't get it.
I'm hoping Obama's truths will not hurt his campaign and I do hope you will be getting many more positive comments. Thank you for that.
If there is a God, surely, you are "blessed.".:
Failing that, you are doubly blessed, in the name of every child, woman, man of good will and honesty and honor and decency.
And through whatever contumely you may suffer for having the moral courage and clear-eyed view of life and living, you must also know and savor the fact that it is "they" who exist in darkness.
Joy to you.
Bravo!
And AMEN.
Frank Eng
Tim Wise was kind to 'remind' white America that the enormous wound associated with race in America, created by them, has been open since slavery and generations beyond, and that they have ignored it even while it was bloody and festering with infection. Rev.Wright didn't create it, he simply tried to remind his countrymen that it was there;that it was not being seriously treated or healed, and that it was spreading--at home and abroad. This isn't new, and Tim Wise was right-on, there has been no real healing and even the most minor treatment has been met with political resentment.If you surveyed white attitutes alone, you might think that we were spending on lazy,black welfare cheats the billiones that we spent on a incredibly misguided Vietnam war (ask MsNamara) and the many more billiones, by an expoential factor, that we are wasting on a liars ill-conceived, greed-driven,craven, hopeless invasion, occupation and destruction of Iraq.Face it, that country will never be the same again.
White America ignored DuBois (anyone for the souvenoir parts of lynched black bodies?), and it is clear that a lot of colored folks never read him either. They ignored Malcolm, Baldwin; took King serious enough to kill him; both ignored and/or castigated Rodney and Carmichael, and hid Fanon and his truth almost entirely. In 27 years of teaching, I have not met as many as 10 white students who ever heard of Frantz Fanon, and only a few others (these would be black) inside of the one predominately black institution in which I have worked, and they, by the way, are not brimming over with knowledge of Fanon--or Memmi, Freire, Cabral or anyone else, for that matter, who has studied oppression. (Forget Fidel, since there is no one in a nearly a full century to compare to him.) Its a pitiful situation, because some of both groups are very apt at quoting the most monsterous propagandist of the right wing in this very troubled country of ours. A few of the students (some white but more black) are so anxious to see a US President 'of color' that they appear to have convinced themselves that an essential condition which he should agree to is that black (and other victims of color) beggingly apologize to the country for the untolled and inhumane brutality and evils that it has visited upon them over the course of its existence. They would apparently be pleased to have a president of color come crawling into the White House rather than one telling the challenging truth. Sorry. I cannot agree. In addition to everything else, I read Leon Littwack's Trouble In Mind some years ago. If you are troubled by the stark truth of one christian minister, go read this book by a man of a different cloth.
In the meantime, I kept waiting for the racist, apologist white media to tell me what Rev. wright was lying about; why they were giving the colored people's favorite son the third degree. Alas, there were no lies. Repeat: NO LIES!! All truth. Rev. Wright wasn't wrong (geez, I like that myself). All I want to see now is Sen. Obama show the integrity of POET LAUREATE BARAKA. Stay with the truth. History will absolve him, and this absolution would ultimately be better for him and do more for the country than him being president of a country afraid to confront and live with it's history. The Germans are doing it, why couldn't we?
Thank you, Mr Wise.
Donn D.
As a 71 year old son of a sharecropper, retired USAF Master Sergeant, civil/human rights activist, Baptist Deacon, world traveler, etc. it is rare that I have ever heard anthing close to my understanding of western history over the past 500 years.
Unless one takes into account the Trans-Atlantic/Triangular Slave Trade one can never understand the plight of Africa and African people spread, and marignalized across the world. White westerners, for the most part, have no concept of "white priveledge" they believe in "manifest destiny" which has been achieved from the barrel of a gun!!!
The wealth of Europe, and the Americas has grown, in large measure, from the demise of Africa and its people. Sadly, it appears that perhaps even Mr. Obama does not fully understand history, or is simply a politician, how else can one account for his distancing himself from Reverend Wright?
I believe it was Martin Luther King, Jr. who stated that "truth crushed to the earth will rise again" He further stated that "no lie can live forever, and that the arch of the universe is wide but is bent toward justice.
I love the United States but the chickens are coming home to roost not only here but throughout the western world.
In my judgement, the good Senator from Illinois rose to the occassion at a level far above what I could have imagined in his "Tuesday Sermon". Still even the smarter members of the so-called free press quickly recovered from their initial awe and quickly refocused the discussion exactly where it ought not to be focused...on a few phrases taken out of context and made to seem irrational and unpatriotic.So now we have work to do. It's not enough for us to pat each other on the back for being among the few who "really understand". Too much is at stake. We need to find effective ways of getting Tim's point across to decent people who are wavering.
I call people, write letters, send out lots of e-mails,talk to any-one who wants to be engaged. But I don't have enough tools. Let's put our heads together (cyberetically speaking) and produce, and share, some stories/tools that would be useful here. I fear for a nation that would watch its own best hope be crucified in its own "free press". Let's help one another to help our country at this desperate hour.
God Bless!
This is full of so much opinion and calculation on the subject that is the core and essence of us all. But I can't stand up and clap because if a person embraces this message without knowing some basic facts/knowledge of events it would be their own down fall. This is a highly tricky worded piece. Redirecting the emotional truth of certain facts and increasing the writers ability to create a stronghold on a weaker or angry mind.
Tim Wise is no Messiah on this thought. I invite you all to pick up a Bible and study Old and New Testament for yourself. There you will find what scripture truly says. And how Tim has not blessed you with his misquotes and ideas concerning God!
Stop listening to the man on the street imprisoning you by your emotions and then misdirecting you to what he/ she suites. That's a False Prophet. And there is more to come! Go read for yourself.
If something happened to you because of the falsehood of a person who says there are something and were not. Don't let that keep you from Christ. The devil can walking into building like anyone else. Seek the truth. And it's not by anger either. There is great peace and rest. 2 Timothy 3:16, 17; 2 Peter 1:20-21, John 10:30, John 14:26, Philippians 2:5-7, Psalm 68:5-6, 1 John 5:16, Genesis 1:26, 1 Timothy 2:5, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 5:1, Romans 3:24, Matthew 28:19, Romans 6:4, Matthew 3: 13-17, Matthew 3:11, Acts 2:4, 1 Corinthians 12:4-11, 1 Peter 4:10, Romans 6:19; Galatians 5:22-25, Luke 9:11, Matthew 9:35, Acts 10:38, Matthew 10:1, Hebrews 9:27, Rev 20:12-15, John 3:16-18, Acts 1-11, 1 Thessalonian 4:13-17 & Hebrews 9:28